Voice Constriction and A Life Agreement Older than the Akashic Records
“You were not in the reality of wholeness because that part of your field was omitted.”
“I've done some light counseling and therapy, but felt the dialogue and discussion produced little progress and weren't focused on resolving areas of the ‘bigger picture’ and goals of higher consciousness.”
For the first time I’m sharing publicly on the podcast about my work with complex life agreements. And I have the most amazing guest for this episode.
Mark and I met briefly almost a month ago. Today, he brings two intentions to work with…
“My voice goes hoarse/restricted when talking about myself or speaking up for myself.
And throughout my life I have been the 2nd in command working for the interests/advancement of the 1st in command.”
You’ll especially want to tune into this client session if you, too:
» notice a shift in your voice when you speak about yourself
» are always prioritizing others at work because you’re moving from overflow
» are curious about the boundaries of the quantum field and your life agreements
» have been told you make a difference just by being in the room, or
» are unclear about the path ahead despite a meaningful career.
Topics covered in this podcast episode:
How Amy’s body is like a tuning fork during sessions
What Mark’s intentions are and how Amy can “check” them
What unusual thing happened during the conversation that was connected with Mark’s field
How entanglements and life agreements come to be
The 3 “ages” and 4 types of life agreements
How life agreements are similar to binding, legal agreements
What transmutation is and how it differs from transformation
How life agreements can be amended in wholeness
How thwarting and protection can actually play out in daily life
The different ways people process and integrate things
For those of you who have taken this journey with us today, I hope that this has been meaningful for you. If you would like to explore working with me, you can always send me an email to me at: amy@amybabish.com
Thank you for joining us and being a part of this process and journey!
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Until we meet again, I'm sending blessings from the Doeg land I steward.
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[00:01:28] Welcome to the Soulful Visionary Podcast. I'm your host, Amy Babish, and I have a new guest today, and our guest is Mark. And I know Mark through a mutual, uh, connection, and we barely know each other, but he has been kind and brave enough to come on the podcast. And, uh, I, I, I don't often share what people, um, put on their form, their intake form for me for the podcast, and I have Mark's permission for this, because I feel like this part of his intake form will really resonate with many listeners.
[00:02:02] So some of you know, many of you know, that I, uh, am an art therapist and a psychotherapist, li- licensed psychotherapist by training, and there is a time and place for every modality, art therapy and psychotherapy included. And for some people, and people like Mark, this statement from his intake is gonna resonate.
[00:02:20] So he says... I asked, "And have you done personal work like this before?" And he said, "I've done some light counseling and therapy, but felt the dialogue and discussion produced little progress and weren't focused on resolving areas of the, quote, bigger picture, end quote, and goals of higher consciousness." So I feel like that's a mic drop.
[00:02:39] Welcome in, Mark. Yeah, Amy, I, I don't even know what to say. Um, surprised I wrote that, but, you know, I, I am a big picture person. I mean, we don't, we know each other a little bit. Yeah. Um, but, like, I'm a big picture person. Like, when we think about, okay, what is the point and purpose of the life- Yes ... you know, and what we're doing here, like, I feel like it just goes so much higher than, you know, a lot of the surface context that many are talking about.
[00:03:10] And so, you know, you do... Y- you sit down, you talk with a counselor, not to diminish anything, 'cause I think that's a value, you know, in a lot of ways. But for me, I'm like, "Ah, there's," like, "We're, we're dealing with the gravel instead of moving the stones" kind of thing. Yes. Yes. I'm so glad that you're here, and I think that that will really land deeply for many people, because there's a time in our life where we do need to move the gravel because it's so complicated or hard or painful.
[00:03:41] And then not that the, the stones aren't painful or complicated- Yeah ... but it's a different kind of, like, it's a different, uh, level of work. Yeah. So. Yeah. Sometimes you need a broom, sometimes you need a bulldozer. Yes, and, um, we have, we have all the tools on the show. We'll find out, right? We'll, uh, find- We'll find out what we need
[00:03:58] I feel like we're gonna be doing some work today, whatever, whatever it is. But I'm ready for it. Yes. Yes. So, uh, we also briefly touched in before, uh, we started recording, and, um, Mark was asking me about his intentions that he wrote. He said, "Do you think that these are the right intentions, um, for me to work on today?"
[00:04:15] And I said, "Absolutely." So, uh- If you're listening for the first time, I never cross anyone's boundaries. I, I, I always work on based on consent, and sometimes before a guest comes on, I can kind of what we call tune in to, uh, what they wrote in their intake form. So Mark's intentions are spot on for what the level, um, and the layer of work that i- is being guided through me for him to work on today.
[00:04:41] So, uh, Mark, would you like to share them, or would you like me to share what you wrote? Uh, you, you share them, and then I'll- Okay ... and then I'll give some context. Then you can, you can- Yeah ... you can add more in. Yeah. So he has two intentions, and I think that these intentions will also resonate with many people.
[00:04:55] So the first one is, "My voice gets hoarse or restricted when talking about myself and speaking up for myself." And right when I say it, I can feel it, um, I can feel something in, um, my solar plexus, and so we didn't really talk about this when, when we met. But my, my body's like a tuning fork. So the solar plexus for those of you listening who are like, "Where's that?"
[00:05:16] It's the place... It's the xiphoid process if you know how to do CPR. It's the place, um, in between your ribs right kind of at the top of your stomach, and I feel it also in the, the back of, um... In, in Taoism we call it the zero point. The zero point is in the middle of, like, your... the pelvis in the back. It's, like, at the base, but it's a...
[00:05:40] it's this space where life and death happen. So it's where our first breath comes in. It's where the, like, the essence comes in, and after the body dies, it's where the last essence leaves. Okay. So I feel those, those places. I don't, I don't know what to do with that. But I feel like it'll, you know... A lot, a lot of times where I feel it is up here.
[00:06:01] Yeah. Like, where the larynx is. Um, I guess you can see me, but others can't. Yeah. So it's, you know, the bottom of the throat- Yeah ... um, is where I feel it. But there i- there's the i-i-it's... And, and I'm gonna give context. Like, anybody who knows me, you know, I'll be in a room, and they'll be like, "Well, what are you talking about?
[00:06:22] Like, this doesn't prescribe... This isn't what I prescribe or associate with you." You know? Yeah. It, it doesn't make sense. Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause, like, if, if there's some... Whether it's at work or, you know, in a social group or whatever, if there's something to share, I have no, no problem, you know, speaking up. But when the conversation turns towards me and not about the work but about me personally, the...
[00:06:51] You know, I c- I can feel the voice just go, you know... And I'll be talking and feel like I'm really having to project. Yeah. And people are like, "What? What? I can't hear you," kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're getting, we're getting... The, the field is organizing as you speak. I will, I will just let you know that.
[00:07:09] The second, the second intention for Mark that he wrote was, "Throughout my life, I have been the second in command, working for the interest and advancements of the first in command." I'm gonna have to p- pause the, the podcast because my dog is having a moment. Yeah. Which is all related. So let me, let me pause.
[00:07:32] So, so sorry, folks. Um, and I understand from Mark, I have changed my settings on, uh, the recording platform I use, and it's actually filtering sound better. My dog is a Goldendoodle, but she sounds like a... some kind of hound when, um, people come to the door that are what I would call not in their wholeness.
[00:07:55] And, um, I had to stop the call, help my dog, and tell the people I was on a work call. And, um, when, uh, I see people that, that are not in their wholeness, I just ask for help for them. I'm not able to help them directly. And so, um, when we're doing a podcast, um, just like I would be doing a session, anything that happens before the session, between sessions, like the last person I saw was yesterday afternoon, and it's the morning.
[00:08:25] You're my first session today, but I've had some calls already. Um, and so in between the last official session and the next session, I'm, I'm, I'm watching the pre-field. I'm noticing the pre-field. I'm noticing what I'm noticing. I'm noticing, um, kind of the things that are peculiar, that are out of the ordinary, and then I'm also noticing in the session.
[00:08:44] So I live in the woods. I live in the hardwoods. Mark can see the woods behind me. Yeah, looks great. Um, and I'm no- I always notice, like, what animals come. I notice, um, all those things, and it's... This is the first time in almost two years that I've ever had a person come to my door during a podcast, and I live in a cul-de-sac at the end of a dead-end area.
[00:09:06] Um, so this is highly unusual. So this is connected to your field 100%. Um- Oh, that's great. So, um, I was able to shift- But, but that, that prompts a question for me. Yes, yes. Is... 'Cause I didn't... We didn't do much exchange before I jumped on here. No. Should I have been doing pre-work? Um, y- they, they were doing pre-work on your behalf.
[00:09:28] Okay. And you- your pre-work was you said, "I decided to clear meetings this morning," and you, you c- you, you phrased it as, like, head down focus. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna keep, like, keep my h- my, my focus, um, intentional, and that, that's your pre-work. Okay. And probably other things, but, um, that's, that's, uh, included in the process.
[00:09:51] Uh, so I'm gonna go back to the second intention 'cause it feels important to presence that again. Throughout my life, I have been second in command working for the interest and the investments of the first in command. And so when I- Or the, or the interests- Yeah ... more so than the investments, but yeah. So when I read that, um, I, I first ki- kinda got really, really big ping, like a huge, like, um, feeling in my body when I first read it, um- I was curious about is this, um, related to the military?
[00:10:32] It has some military-like things, not in your lived life. Oh, gee. That's so funny. Keep, keep going. I'll, I'll add context. That's funny, though. Um, and then I... You know, those are very specific words, and when we're doing, um, this kind of work, the words you write when it is an entanglement, it's, it's like a direct...
[00:10:54] It's dictation from the, from whatever this is. So regularly you probably wouldn't use that if it was not about this. But when it's related to, it kind of, um, makes a through line backwards to wherever this belongs. So there's something, um, possibly military related. And then for the listeners, many people e-experience like...
[00:11:17] have an experience like this of they are an expert in their field, they are a team player, and they really show up and they deliver. They, they out-deliver, but then they, they s- they cannot move forward, like in their own- That's it ... their own lane. It's like you're supporting someone else's lane all the time, and it's like at this point in your career it doesn't make sense.
[00:11:41] That's it. That, that's exactly it. The, the, the part that I laugh about in the, in the military comment is, I mean, I'm sure I'm coming off this way anyway. I, I don't necessarily see it, sense it, feel it, but people are like, "You have a military intensity about you." And it, it's just a focused... It's, you know, it's kind of a, uh, the deliberate intention around whatever you're doing, do it with purpose, right?
[00:12:08] Yeah. Yeah. But I don't see myself as, like, that intense. Yeah. But, you know, I, I... And when I was writing the intention, it was like, okay, is, you know... It, command was the word. Yes. You know? Yeah. Rather than hierarchy or anything like that. Command was the word that I was like, uh, it kind of covers... Well, it, it encaps- encapsulates more.
[00:12:36] Yeah. Yeah. It's acc- it's very accurate. Uh, so- When I tuned in, um, I was able to ask, "Is this related to anything ancestral?" And the answer is no. It might show up in, um- But, but you think they're linked. These- Both intentions are linked ... both, both intentions are linked to the same, um, person. And I- I've shared this on the podcast before, but sometimes people find podcasts one by one.
[00:13:08] So when we have... You know, this is not to... Anything I say, Mark, is not to tell you the truth. It's like you drop it through your wisdom too. Yeah, it's guidance. Yeah. Yeah, it's guidance. It's guidance. So in my experience of people who come to work with me, is that before you incarnated, you had all these gifts, all these wonderful things, and then, um, you said, "These are the things I wanna work on."
[00:13:30] And most people that come to see me have been also working on these things for a hot minute. Like, a long time. Totally makes sense to me. Yep. Click. So when we, when, when, myself included, before we incarnated, we, we gathered all the, the people, and we said, "These are the things I wanna work on." And, um, your blood lineages both raised their hands and said, "We have these things in spades.
[00:13:53] We will help you with them." Mm. And sometimes by, um, reinforcing the things, not in the positive way. Okay. So we, we will present- Yeah, I get it. Test it in different ways. Yeah. Yeah. We, we will give you the challenges so that you can see this is something you actually wanna work on. Yeah. So and then, um, a new layer, which I haven't talk- spoken about on the podcast so much, is, um, that this oftentimes originates in, uh, life agreements.
[00:14:25] And so the life agreements, uh, have three categories. And I'm sure there's more, but this is for simplicity. Sure. We have recent, that's include this lifetime, other recent lifetimes. Then we have old, old, old, and then we have ancient. And sometimes the guides are really ... Like, you know, they poke fun at me.
[00:14:45] Like, "You have to say this out loud." I mean, old, old, old is a category. You, uh, as, as if old, old, old, you know- Yeah ... ancient doesn't describe old, old, old. But, uh, so you said I can ask questions. Of course. Right? Yes. Yes, please do. Where, where do they fall in the quantum field with concurrent lives? Um, so, so at first when anyone asks me a question I ask, do I have the right to know?
[00:15:11] So I have the right to know and you have the right to know. Um, so recent is within the quantum field. And I'm not saying this ... Yeah, just- Yeah ... within those three categories. Yeah. Yeah. So recent does include the quantum field. Uh, old, old, old is both the quantum field and beyond the quantum field. And then ancient is beyond the quantum field.
[00:15:31] Yeah. So ancient, um, is oftentimes universal agreements. And, um, yeah. We'll, we'll see, we'll see what's involved. So ancient, ancient are not usual. That's not ... Most people do not have ancient agreements that, even that come to me. Um, most people have old, old, old, and a, a small handful have ancient. Um- Okay ... and so we'll, we'll, we'll see, we'll see what happens.
[00:15:56] So with the life agreements, um, it's oftentimes, um ... And they want me to s- share this with you now. So prior to you choosing, um, navigating voice and navigating being the first or second in command, you in fact did have a big voice and you in fact were first in command. And so I'm not allowed to know the context right now, but whatever precipitated you making a life agreement around this, it's an old, old, old agreement.
[00:16:33] Um, you, you, you saw it for one of a couple categories. So the agreements can be just for humanity, planet Earth, planet Earth and humanity. They can be for the cosmos or they can be universal, which means all, all realms known and unknown. And so- Man, it's ama- it's amazing how you keep track of all this stuff.
[00:16:57] You know? It's really impressive. Thank you. I, I'm very humbled that, um, they have cleared out a lot for me to be able to hear and see and notice, um, with more wholeness. Um, so this, this ... Your intentions are with one life agreement that's old, old, old and it's universal. So universal agreement, this universal agreement that's old, old, old is both in the quantum field and, and the beyond what's quantum, which we don't really have a scientific understanding of.
[00:17:31] We don't have a human- Okay ... you probably have a known, like, a felt sense awareness of it, Mark, um, as many people who I work with do. Um- Yeah ... we, it's not that we don't believe science, but science can only go so far. Yeah, you're not gonna blow my hair back here. Yeah. You know? We, we know what we know, but we don't know everything.
[00:17:48] We, we, the more we know, the more we don't know. Yep. Uh, and so when you were, you, when you were kind of coming to this, um, moment in time, old, old, old, um, you, you had an awareness that many beings and non-beings did not know how to use their voice, and they had to shrink. And so this agreement was made out of compassion.
[00:18:15] It was a, um- The equivalent of a bodhisattva vow Okay. I don't know exactly what that is, but okay. So, so bodhi- bodhisattva vow is from Buddhism, and it's, um, uh, a vow of suffering- Okay ... or to alleviate suffering for others. Yep. Okay. And it's through, it's through compassion. And, um, so you had a deeper awareness of, "I have this huge gift of voice, and then I have this huge gift of being in command," and it kind of like was like a brush your shoulders off moment of like, "Of course, um, of course I can, like, help others with this."
[00:18:58] Yeah. Like, "I'm so... Like, I'm kind of epic." Like, that's your vibe. Okay. And in this lifetime where this happened, um- And you were a light worker when you, when you made this Okay ... um, in a, in a human form. Um, and then
[00:19:23] They want me to share that, um
[00:19:28] Just like in, in medical advice, we have AMA, against medical advice. Yeah. This was an AMA agreement. Okay. It wasn't medical advice. It was, um- This is, this is me saying, "No," that I know best. Yeah. I know better. Um, that's, that's a lot of it. Yeah, that carries forward. That tracks, right? Yeah. Um, so in... The AMA in this case is not medical, it is, um, Archangel Metatron.
[00:19:55] Okay. Metatron is not the oldest archangel, but he is a, he's an old, old, old- Yep ... archangel. And so you and Metatron and your guides, um, like negotiated on this. And, and he was kind of... He's telling me vehement, beyond adamant. He was vehement that you should not take this on because it's not just for one being.
[00:20:20] It's, it's not your responsibility. And you were just like, "No, no, I know best. I can do this." Cool. We're gonna do this anyway. We're gonna do this anyway. Yeah. And so, um, at that time you did have free will, and so you have the free will to make this agreement. Um, so- This agreement is, is eons old And, uh- When you, when you say eons Eons Like hundreds, thousands?
[00:20:54] Uh- Longer
[00:21:08] About 880,000 years old. Okay. So you have been at this for a long time. Okay. And some people, it's lifetime after lifetime. This one was not lifetime after lifetime. You would go in and give it your best, and then you would come back out and say, "I'm not gonna do it the next time." Sometimes it was three lifetimes in a row.
[00:21:32] Like, it's not, it's not every lifetime, but as you can imagine with, like, any kind of craft or any kind of commitment, the more we do it, the more intense it or entrenched it becomes. Okay. So when you're finding me at this juncture in 2026, it's pretty intense. Okay. So when you, when you go to speak up, it's probably, like, even more, like, not confusing, but, like, I don't understand why this is happening.
[00:22:00] Yeah. Like, this doesn't make any sense. It, it really is weird to me 'cause- Yeah, it doesn't... Yeah. It, it, it, it doesn't make sense to me be- because, you know, it, it'll be in a group setting, and I'm like, "Okay, cool, but I'm not really interested in talking about me. I'd rather talk about you," and, you know, uh, I can just feel the block there.
[00:22:24] Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So, so this agreement is, um- It's complex. So, uh So what happens when we do an AMA, uh, with Me- Metatron, it's not like a punishment or a consequence, but it's kinda like when we, we... You know, you're in a business where there's contracts involved. Mm-hmm. So we know, like, there's subheading number one, and then there's, like, the super fine print that, like- Yeah, you got your terms.
[00:22:56] Yeah, the terms. And for those terms, yeah. Yeah. So, um, in, in this realm when you made this agreement, this universal agreement that went against Metatron's advice, there was a lot of fine print that when you say yes to this thing, you can't also control the terms. And so you're at the juncture of, like, the, um, the ramifications of the terms.
[00:23:23] They're not con- He, he's very clear to say it's not consequence, it's a ramification. Yeah. So, and- I, I understand what's happening here. Like, like my sense- Yeah ... is it's like, uh, the agreement is the agreement. Yeah. And you, you have to, you know, complete the terms to complete the agreement. So, so that's how it was up until now, and so, um, part of the process is that, um, I am able to be, like, a...
[00:23:55] It's not religious, but I'm able to be an intercessor. Oh, you're a negotiator here? Uh, I'm a negotiator. So, um- All right. Yeah. I'm able to- They're in, they're in their room and I'm in my room and you're going back and forth. Yeah, okay. So it is, it is like, it is a legal agreement. So they give me a lot of terms that are very old and, like, very, um, formal.
[00:24:22] Yeah. And so it is, it is a, um, a process like we're in chambers. Like, if you were in a judge's courtroom and something was so private that the whole courtroom couldn't hear it, you and I are in chambers with Metatron and others. You, you ever dealt with this before? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. All right, good. Oh, yes. Um- Good.
[00:24:45] I'm glad I'm not the only one, you know. You're not the only one. So I, um... This is part of my specialty, Mark. Is that, um, I'm, you know, I'm in Washington DC so I'm, I'm read in. Yeah. I'm read into, um, some of the origins of things that are quite hard to, hard to find. Yeah. Okay. Um, so sometimes it's our ancestors have made agreement that impacts us, and sometimes it's our past life selves have made it, and this is a past life that is simply you.
[00:25:19] Yeah. Okay. So it's, um, not even... We wouldn't consider it in constellation work a- and an entanglement. It is a by Mark, for Mark, through Mark and Mark decision. Yeah. All right, good. Good. Yeah. But well, you gotta take responsibility for your own, right? Yeah. Yeah. And, and s- and, you know, there's, there's never, like, a one-size-fits-all.
[00:25:40] So this is the first podcast where I'm sharing this publicly- Good ... that I, that I do this on behalf of people. Um, so the reason, the reason why, um, is because you're a multiplier. I don't know what that means, but- So a multiplier is someone who has, um, a lot of reach, and you are interconnected to many people who have, then, a lot of reach.
[00:26:08] Okay. Um, and it's in, like, personal life and professional life. And so, um, by doing this work with you, you're ... You'll be m- more Mark. And when you're more Mark, it's gonna shift things for other people. Good. And it's not, like, gonna be like a, um, you have to tell people what happened. It's like, just you being in the room will change things.
[00:26:33] That, that's interesting 'cause I, I've heard that from other people. Yes. It... You know, un- unrelated to this, obviously. But they're like, "Just be in the room. You don't have to say anything. Just be in the room-" Yes. Yeah ... "and it'll make a difference." And I d- I don't necessarily see that about myself, but I, you know, can sense kind of what purpose that holds to.
[00:26:54] Yeah. S- so some people could experience that around you even without, you know, with these, um, challenges, with this agreement, and other people could not see it. So the next, the next layer is that, um, so because the agreement was so complicated, um, there are parts that are, um, parts where you've been protected around not going further because it's so complicated, and then there are parts where you're being thwarted.
[00:27:29] And, um, none of it is a punishment, but it is all about you, no matter what you did at this, by, to this point, you could not solve this on your own And so they kind of protect you from making it more complicated for yourself. Even though it's really painful and complicated, they're protecting you in some ways, and then you're also being equally thwarted.
[00:27:50] So you're like, "What do we do?" Yeah. We're, we're just kind of ... We're, we're floating. And so, um, if not in your professional life but in your personal life, you can go to speak, and it's not with everybody, but it's certain people, and they tell me you'll know exactly who when, when I share what I share.
[00:28:12] There's certain people when you go to speak, you know what you're saying, and they literally don't hear what you're saying. And it's not like a therapy thing where they're tuning you out or it's ... Like, they literally are being told something different than what you're saying. And so if we are in a room, your lips would say what you said from your brain.
[00:28:36] I would hear them, and other people would hear them that are in more wholeness, and then there are people who are not in wholeness who would hear something, like, completely different, and they would see your move, lips move completely different I'm trying to think who that would be. Nobody's jumping to me, you know?
[00:28:55] It, it's in your family Well, uh, immediate family or extended? Um, extended and then, uh
[00:29:11] And your brother
[00:29:16] I mean, I have a, I have a, uh, the, the, I have a great relationship with all my siblings. Yes, yes. So I've, so I've got five siblings, four brothers. Yes. Right? Yes. Um, and I have a good relationship with all of them, but I'm not, I wouldn't say they're intimate. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're, they're intimate, and this could be partially why, too.
[00:29:37] Yeah, this is... Yeah. Like, we, we see things very differently, and not just from a religious point of view either. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. Um- From, as you would s- as you said in the, in the beginning, the bigger picture is not the same. Yeah, and, you know, the, for context, too, it's a, it's a very respectful relationship.
[00:29:57] Yes. But we're not confronting each other, either. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yep, yeah. Um, and then with the second part around being in command, um, as you know, it's primarily at work, and so it's almost like, um, the metaphor they're giving me is like this isn't how they do it anymore, but, you know, not so long ago before we had Google Docs and things like that, it's like a f- a filing cabinet with your file.
[00:30:28] Like, the, uh, the file has your name on it, and literally when they go to take it out, it's gone. So like they know it's there, like all the names are alphabetical. They know, oh, we wanna promote Mark. But then when they go to be like, "Where's Mark's file?" It's... They can't find it. It's like that. Okay. So it's not intentional.
[00:30:54] They don't know that they're doing it. They don't know this is being done, but that's the thwarting. Yep. Okay. So the f- the voice is protection, and this is where the thwarting's happening. Got it. That- That's- That lines up. Okay. That's important to clarify. Um, so, um- There are people that can see you in your wholeness.
[00:31:18] There are people who, like this doesn't make any sense to even at work why you're not being promoted. Um, so this is going to, um clear a lot of things up. Okay. Yep. All right. Um, and so they want me to clarify that, um, we are in a, um, a process that has, um, anonymity and privacy, even though we're being recorded on the interwebs.
[00:31:50] Yeah. Um, um, but in terms of, like, um, spiritual- It's like- Go ahead. Go ahead ... it's, it's, it's like any contract, right? Yeah, yeah. You, you might know the overall, but you might... You're not privy to all the terms and conditions. Yeah. So we're in a, um, a container of spiritual and energetic in- integrity is what they want me to say out loud.
[00:32:10] Okay. Um, and so only the people that can be read in are in that chambers. So I'm there. You're there. Your guides are there. Metatron's there. And S- and Saint Germain is there. And Saint Germain, uh, is an ascendant master who has, uh, the violet flame. Okay. And the violet flame is transmutational. Is trans what?
[00:32:31] Transmutational.
[00:32:36] Okay. So, um, transmutation versus transformation is important to clarify. So transformation is like, you know, when people work out, they have a body transformation. Yeah. Or, um, you can work in a garden and the garden can transform. Okay. It's like I, I did something. I put some intention in, and then I see the results.
[00:32:59] Transmutation is, um, I put these food ingredients together and I made something that couldn't, couldn't be possible without the whole. That's a transmutational act. The alchemical act is another way to say it. Okay. Another one is like in fairytales when the frog turns into the prince. Got it. I moved from one thing to another thing that literally it was not possible for.
[00:33:21] So transmutation is an, um, a process of alchemy, like, um, in King Arthur realms, but in Daoism it's, um, usually referred to as transmutation versus alchemy. Got it. Okay. Um, yeah. So, so, um, S- Saint Germain is... He carries the transmutational violet flame. Okay. And, um- We don't just use like a regular flame because the regular flame can, um, sometimes burn, which would be like it's done, complete.
[00:33:57] But sometimes it sends a smoke signal to, um, things that are not whole. Got it. Okay. So we don't, we don't want a smoke signal. Yep. Okay. That's important to clarify. That's, you might- It seems like you might have a question. I, I... Well, and, and it's something maybe we talk about after, but you, you mentioned when we met before about St.
[00:34:17] Germain, right? Yes, yes. And I cannot visualize, like when I'm, you know, in that closed moment, visualize- Yeah ... the purple flame. Yeah. Like I can, like a white flame or something else like that. Yeah. Or a white light. And I'm like, there's something there that's keeping me from vis- visualizing or blocking that- Yes
[00:34:36] that- Yes ... that violet flame. Yeah. And it's related to this. Um, and you were able to, um, use that before And other lifetimes before the agreement. Okay. You didn't know that you were gonna lose access to that with this agreement. Okay. Yeah. Good to, good to know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, um ... I, I don't know what to say, but I, I, you know, I'm, I'm not a
[00:35:10] I wouldn't say ... I'm not religious, and I'd say my spirituality is probably, you know ... It, it goes beyond God into the greater, right? Yes. Yes. And so, you know, we talked earlier about we only know what we know, right? Yes. Yes. So I ... So there's a lot of times in my quiet moments I'll be like, "Okay, let's pull in whatever elements we don't know to help with, you know, progression and healing and wholeness," whatever it is, right?
[00:35:41] Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, so that's where I'm like, "Oh, I'm trying to work with the violent flame," which I've never even, you know, tried to conjure or anything like that before, um, or make a connection with. And it's like, uh, there's nothing. Yeah. You know? Yeah. There's s- sparks but nothing, you know? So you're
[00:35:59] This one is a thwarting. You're being thwarted from using it. Got it. Um, and, uh ... Yeah. I, I ... They, they're giving me a sense of, um, prior to this agreement- You know, in the ancient times, you were, um, in your wholeness, um, in a very benevolent way. And, um
[00:36:32] Yeah. Yeah, so I can have a sense of, um, why you were allowed to use that, the violet flame in the past, um, and then, uh, how different it is now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you kn- you know, I, I put it in the form too. Like, I, you know, uh, what- whatever we got into today, I, like I mentioned, it's a curiosity of where things might go, right?
[00:37:01] Yes. Yeah. Uh, as much about, you know, uh, addressing the intention but also, you know, the process. Mm-hmm. And, you know, within that there's, you know, recognizing the connection you have to the past and future, right? Yes. There's a responsibility I feel to both, you know, forward and behind. Yes. But also, you know, within whatever community I'm in, community or family or connections that are current too.
[00:37:30] Yeah. That, that's, that's your multiplier effect. Okay. Your inter- your interconnectedness. Um, yeah. Yeah. We're gonna go deeper, we're gonna go deeper into, um, the contract process, the agreement process. They want me to use agreement, not contract. Contract is what we, w- we would say here, but agreement is... has more, um, ramifications than contract in the old, old, old.
[00:38:00] Uh- Okay ... so we're all there. And, um, they've given me kind of, like, three categories of what, um, like, the legal terms of what we do when it's time to update the- Amend a- ... agreement. Yeah ... agreement? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, and i- it's very clear just, but to say it out loud in, in the, for the recording, like, you're very congruent.
[00:38:27] You, you're ready for this. You're done with this. Okay. Yeah. That feels good. Yeah. Yeah. You, you don't want to... You, you're not confused about it's the Mark show or I need to do it my way. You're ready to be like, "I will accept some help." Yeah. Um, and, you know, like I mentioned before, people would be like, "What are you doing?"
[00:38:49] Like- Yeah ... "Why do you need that?" Right? Yeah. Um, and, you know, talking about the, the therapy component, which has been very, very little, right? Mm-hmm. Very little. Yeah. Because there's a lot of, "I can figure this out," you know? Yeah. Yes. I, I can do self work and figure this out. Yep. Where, you know, uh, you know, after meeting you, I'm like, "Okay, we've got foundation," and there's things, there's gaps within the foundation that have filled in.
[00:39:16] And then, you know, meeting you, it's like, okay, there's another layer that's filling in some of these gaps. Yes. And- Yeah ... so this, that's why it's like, yeah, let's do this, where- Let's ... I'm, I'm not the l- let me put it on blast kind of thing. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. Um, so there's the willingness, there's coherence, there's agreement.
[00:39:38] Um, and- This one is, this one is, is an amendment, so it's not all or nothing. So there's other legal processes that they will put forward when it's... We're gonna- When we're there. Yeah. So we're gonna ask for, um, this agreement to be amended throughout all time, space, dimensions, universes, in perpetuity, backwards, forwards, and in concurrent time.
[00:40:04] That's quite important. Um, and in the now. And then we ask, um, Saint Germain to use the violet flame to allow, um, whatever known and unknown parts of this have been touched, um, over the last 880,000 years. It will go throughout, um, the quantum field and beyond. Um, so the word that we might use is, like, it's, it's cleaning up its acts.
[00:40:41] Okay. Like, the, the... Whatever was a part of your learning, whatever was a part of... The wholeness stays, but whatever was being thwarted or creating thwarting because of you would go against Metatron and the, the wholeness. Like, your right, your right-sized place. Um, we're asking for wholeness for all those things.
[00:41:09] Question- Yeah ... 'cause I've had experiences in the past, like, even when I was little. Of course. You know? It wasn't questioning the authority. Mm-hmm. It was l- l- I just wanna see. Let me, let me try this, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Is that what this is? Um, this is a part of that. Okay. Yeah. And it- it's literally like, you know, when your phone updates and you get, like, a, like, this 20.0 upgrade.
[00:41:40] Your operating system could not be upgraded around this. Got it. So it, like, literally did not compute to you why that wouldn't go well for you. Okay. Yeah. So it was not passive aggressiveness. It wasn't like, "I'm testing boundaries." It was literally like, um, hidden in plain sight. Yeah. Makes sense. Yep. Yeah, yeah.
[00:41:59] So and other people might be like, "Why does he continue to do this?" And it's like, doesn't make sense. And in your fie- in your field of awareness, in your consciousness, in your unconsciousness, it's not, it's not a anything therapy-related. It is from the agreement. It's literally omitted.
[00:42:19] You know my wife. She says it all the time, "How do you not see this?" Yeah, yeah. She's like, "You gotta work through that. How do y- how do you not see this? It's clear- Yeah ... to everybody but you." So, so you were not in the reality of wholeness because that part of your field was omitted. So in your wife's field, it's whole, and the other people that could see it, they're in the reality of wholeness.
[00:42:42] But you, you're looking at, like, you know, I have this cup here. We're looking at this cup. I'm holding the cup. You see the cup. If this was the thing, you would not see the cup, and other people would see the cup. Got it. Okay. It is that concrete. Okay. And it's not because you're being difficult. It's not because...
[00:43:00] Like, I can hear the, the viewers. It's not because you're a man. It's nothing of that sort. It... And, and it's- Yeah, you haven't had a lot of guys on your podcast, so thanks for having me. Both brave ones. Yeah, I know it. I know it. But- Uh, people ask me all the time, "Do you see men?" I'm like, "Yes, I have them on the podcast," but, you know, uh, my male clients don't necessarily wanna come on the podcast too, so.
[00:43:22] I know. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Yeah. You know? It, it took- Uh ... some prodding to get me here too. Yeah, yeah. So it's important because part of when we're not in the reality of wholeness- Both of us can be thwarted. So if, you know, th- this is really important for those listening because the, the un-wholeness will perpetuate all of the places that we're not whole.
[00:43:50] So if we have experienced, um, you know, trauma or mistreatment from men, that's the first place that that loophole comes in and projects all over the situation. It's because of this. Sure. It's because of that. And it doesn't mean that people haven't been hurt, but it makes us jump to conclusions, which then creates massive unders- misunderstandings, which then leads to conflict.
[00:44:16] And this is not just around the family table, this is not just in businesses, this is what the basis of war is. Yeah. I see it. Yeah. So I am a very big picture person. I'm, I'm in the details, but I'm a very big picture person. You, you and me both. Yeah. Yes. So it- it's important for people to be able to hold, uh, the whole, that, yes, people have been hurt by the other gender, but men have been hurt by women, too, and there's a lot of confusion about that, and that's not your podcast.
[00:44:45] That's another podcast that's forthcoming. Yeah. I can feel it. Um- We can call that humanity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So in, in this experience that you're sharing around your wife, she's not genderizing it, but it literally doesn't make sense to her because she can see it as clear as the cup that I was holding.
[00:45:03] Mm-hmm. And you're like, "There's no cup, wife." Yeah. Right? Yeah. And so ... I'm, I'm right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I, and I don't see it, and, and it is because of you... You're being thwarted because of the terms and conditions of this agreement. Got it. Okay. And it's... If you were a different person, it would, it would be a big hi- high conflict.
[00:45:28] And it would be gaslighting, and it would be all other kinds of things. But that's, that's because of the, the solidity of you and your wife. Mm-hmm. Not that it's not hard at times, but it's not like World War III in your house. No. Which it is in ma- in many houses- Yeah. No, it, no, it's- ... when this kind of thing is happening
[00:45:47] it, it's not like that at all. It's, it... Uh, I mean, it's... I don't even... It, it can be about my work, it can be about, you know, situations we're dealing with the kids, situations we're dealing with, you know, other relationships, you know. Yeah. And, you know, but, but that's where, uh, I mean, not to get into our relationship, but that's where, you know, I appreciate and respect her, her point of view and her perspective on things.
[00:46:19] Yeah. 'Cause I'm like, "I'll get further with you than just by myself," you know? Yeah. So. That's your, that's your humility. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, yeah, that comes from lifetimes of, of, of this agreement. You, you came with the gift of humility for this lifetime, which was hard, hard-earned. Okay. Yeah.
[00:46:43] Um- So the transmutation part is complete with the violet flame. Um, and so now we kind of go and I, I'm asking if there's other, like, um, adjacent processes that is ne- are needed
[00:47:00] This, this one is, um, another one that Metatron is primarily in charge of for you. Um, and the category is, um, transmute and reveal. It's just what we were just talking about. And so when we're not in the wholeness Things are kept, like they're not revealed to us about ourselves, about others, and it's not just vis- visual.
[00:47:28] I, I, I'm oftentimes, um, guided to speak about the five or six senses. So it... This can even happen in emails. This can happen, um In writing, it can happen in all kinds of ways
[00:47:47] Seems like you have s- you have, seems like you have something, um- I, I, I, I don't. I'm tr- I'm trying to relate it, you know? So- I'm a, I'm a very heady person. Yeah, that's perfect You know? Uh- We have a lot of heady people, a lot of heady people who listen here. Um, so- Yeah. And so it's like, okay, I'm hearing you.
[00:48:00] Like, let's ... Then, and the gears are rolling, you know? So- To start clicking and make some connections too. In work, there have been emails that you know that you sent. I know what I wrote. I know what I sent. My intentions were clean. There's no charge. You're not upset with anybody. You're not upset with yourself.
[00:48:20] And when someone else gets it, it's not what you wrote. Oh, boy. I ... Is that not just email and, you know? No. No, it's, that's- And, and written communication, you know? That's, that's ... And it's not like, you know, it's not about tone, 'cause I can hear people asking. It's not about tone. Yeah. It's literally what you sent.
[00:48:40] Um, your wife could see what you sent. She's in the wholeness around this one. Um, I could see what you sent. A couple colleagues could, but other people would be like, "Oh, no. Mark sent a different email." Yeah. It's literally- I, I, I d- L- I know what you mean, you know? Literally a different email. Yeah. Like an AB test.
[00:49:00] Mm-hmm. Like, people got this email, and then people got this email. And your wife and I would be like, and these colleagues that are in the wholeness with you around this, they're like, "No, no. I read it. Yeah, Mark, you sent this." And then you have someone else or a couple other people who are like, you know, anything from like, "You didn't send that," to like, "Why the hell did you send this?"
[00:49:22] Yeah, totally different interpretation of what was sent. Yeah. Oh, no. Not, not just interpretation. It is literally a different email. I know this is beyond comprehension. It is literally a different email. I kinda, I kinda know what you, I know what you're saying, right? Yeah. Yeah. I know what you're saying. Um- Yes.
[00:49:43] It's, and this is really important for people listening. It's not about, um, perceived- It's not a stretch for me. Yeah, it's not a stretch. Yeah, it's not a stretch for you. Yeah. So it would be like, I'm gonna give a concrete example. "Hey, so and so, can you, um, send this in the mail to this client by Tuesday?"
[00:50:04] You write this, and then the people in the wholeness see, "Oh, Mark wrote this." The person who's receiving it is confused, not about you, but they're thwarted. And so they see, "Why didn't you send this, you lazy MFr?" Yeah. Um, "It should have been done last Tuesday." You literally did not write that. That's literally within the email
[00:50:31] I don't recall that, but I know a lot of times where it maybe not be, might not be so much in an email. Yes. But a lot of times in conversations. On, on conversation, yeah. Yes. Where that happens and it's like, whoa, that is th- th- that's- You, you- You know? Yeah. Um... That's not what you said. Yeah. It's literally not what you said.
[00:50:56] That's not how that conversation went at all. Yeah. Yeah. So- Yeah ... it can happen in email. I'm giving that as a general example. Yeah. But, but this is, this is gonna clear up, like it's... It is beyond, um, miscommunication. It's literally like if we had someone else speaking on the phone that could hear all the different versions- Yeah
[00:51:16] you would be able to hear that person literally... It's not that they can't hear you, it's that you said something else to them. Exactly. That you did not say yourself. That i- that is very relatable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So- Yeah ... this one- Where I'm tapping the microphone and I'm like, "Is this thing on?" Yeah, yeah.
[00:51:34] You know? You're like, yeah. Where, and, and, you know, a- it's, it, I... The way I see it is it's semi-related to what you were mentioning about my brother, where the, you know, I'm saying something, they are not hearing what I'm saying. Yes, yes. You know? Yeah. Yeah. And they're not- Yeah ... being difficult. It's literally they hear something...
[00:51:55] If we had a, a video of what they heard you saying, your words would be literally different for them. Yeah, exactly. You hear, you hear what you're saying, you know what you said, but on the other side, they're seeing a different version of Mark saying something different. Oh, this is great. And it's not because- Yeah
[00:52:12] it's not because they're not stable, it's not because, you know, they're misogynist, it's because literally they're hearing something different. Yeah. I see it. Yep, I see it. Um, and, you know, we see that sometimes in the movies. Sometimes the movies are not all wrong. And, um-
[00:52:35] You know, there's a lot of things that are in, um, many different languages about this that have been lost over generations So there was an understanding about this a long time ago, but it has been lost, and it has been, um, warped and manipulated so that people think it's all personal. This is this person's personal pro- problem with me, or this is because of the patriarchy- Yeah
[00:53:04] or because of politics. Not to say that there aren't major problems there, but that's not the root of this. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So you are, um, getting the brunt of that. Around being heard and not being able to say things I, I have nobody to blame but myself, you know? Well, w- this is not about blame. That's import- that's important.
[00:53:27] It's like- Sure. I have nobody- Yes ... to point to but myself, you know? Yeah, so it's like this comes from, uh, a massive misunderstanding where you did not have so much humility when you said yes to this agreement. Yeah And- Lesson learned ... it's, it took 880,000 years, but here we are. Yeah. Some lessons- Yeah ... take longer than others.
[00:53:48] That's right. Got it. Right. Yeah. Right. Okay. Um, and you know, this is something where- ... a therapist would be like, "Let's look at your family table." Oh, brother. Yeah. And, and you're like, it, it didn't start there. And y- I think you know that. Yeah. That's what I mean about the gravel versus the stones. Yeah. You know?
[00:54:06] Yeah. It's like I am not here to point the p- point the finger at anyone's parents, which- Yeah ... that is really painful and very complicated, and there's a whole other process I do around that. But I would never, ever point the finger. Even with horrible things, blame is never gonna create wholeness.
[00:54:26] Totally agree with that. You're, you're sold- Yeah ... you're sold on that one. Um- Yeah, I don't, I don't need that explained to me. That's... To me, that's staying in the moment rather than in the, in the progression. Yeah, yeah. So with the transmutation and, and, and revealing or, or revelation, um, is that you will be in the wholeness around how you hear others, how you see things.
[00:54:51] Like the things your wife had pointed out, you will be able to see what she's pointing out in a very different way. It'll be like, uh, it'll be like you literally have, like, new glasses, but they're energetic and- Yeah ... physical and spiritual. Um, and that, um, when possible, other people will be able to hear you.
[00:55:10] Right. Right. Um, and we'll get, we'll get into some of the, um, the, like, the fine-tuning of it. And now, um, the, the kind of phrase that I'm asked to, um, s- speak aloud on your behalf is the request for universal restoration of universal peace. And, um, you might know this from Daoism, the number three is the number of new beginnings, so they ask me to just say th- things three times oftentimes to, like, open up the, um, the door for this to move forward.
[00:55:45] So, um, we ask for universal restoration of universal peace. We ask for universal restoration of universal peace. Um--
[00:55:59] And it's, it's complete. That's great. Yeah. But so that universal peace- Mm ... what d- what does that do? Extend across the continuum, or? So it, it is... It's kind of like, um, the metaphor that they give me is like a weaving. So it's not the fabric of time, but the fabric of wholeness. Okay. And so where we have, um, gone above our pay grade or against AMA.
[00:56:30] Yeah. And there's different versions of AMA. It's not always Metatron. It's other things- Yeah ... sometimes. Um, there are, um, quantum anomalies. That's the best way to say it, that you would understand it. So there are gaps in the time-space continuum where it's not whole. And when you're a multiplier, when we, um, invite in the wholeness through you, it goes back and patches the parts that were not whole.
[00:56:57] Right. Okay. And the wholeness, the wholeness is not peace necessarily, but the wholeness makes it possible for universal peace to come through. Yeah. So, um, the more, um, the compound effect happens, um, or the butterfly effect happens, whichever metaphor y- works well for you. So when this, um- When this moment is made whole through you, in you, around you, with all of your connections throughout the 880,000 years of time, that is not really real, but it's the best way our human minds can experience it, um, then it, it, um, it just weaves in.
[00:57:44] Okay. So as you can imagine, there's a lot of holes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, and we see the holes in the now as conflict and as pain and suffering, and all those things are real, and there's a different way through it other than, um, persecution and punishment and consequences. Great. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:58:04] So that's, that's a big picture view of, um, how that works. Um, do you have any questions before we move on to integration? No, I... N- not really. Okay. To, to me, the way I interpret that is, you know, higher w- higher road and bridges- Yeah ... in a lot of ways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, and like clear... Then the way can be made clear.
[00:58:26] It comes through like the water. When a proper bridge is there, people can pass over the water, and the water can also move through, through, versus, um, a lot of things have been dammed up- Yeah ... in all senses of the word. That makes sense. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so for integration for you-
[00:58:50] It's gonna happen. We're about three weeks away from the solstice on this, on this, um, call. So it's gonna happen around the solstice. Okay. And that's the midpoint of, um, yin and yang, of sun and, um, darkness. And the darkness is important for those of you listening because it's the void. And so the void is, um, the place of the unknown, but also the place of pure potentiality.
[00:59:17] And, um, to, to have the, um, your process be completely integrated by that time, it's gonna really allow you to come through with, um, more oomph behind your back. Okay. And, like, this can come through you now and, um, like the c- they're saying, like, the conversations and the spaces that you'll be able to, um, just be in, like, like your being-ness, um, will, will have a different quality to them.
[00:59:50] That, that translates for me. You know? Yeah. That, that feels good too. Yeah. That, that feels good. Um, and-
[01:00:08] And there's actually no other recommendations for integration. Just drink water. John Cena? Drink water as, um, as you would. Yeah, sometimes it's very specific. Um-
[01:00:24] What did we do? Ca- catch them on a good day where they're like, "We just want to get these- No. No, I- ... agreements taken care of so we can get onto vacation or the weekend," kind of thing? Th- they're clarifying that, like, you've done so much work in other lifetimes before this o- on this one, that you were really ready.
[01:00:41] And in this lifetime you've done a lot of work too, and so you were ready to, like, surrender it. Or like, okay. I- Uh, let's, let's, let's put the, you know, metaphorical sword down. Yeah. And th- they want me to share, like, I have a, I have a year-long group of women that works with me, and, um, we do a lot of this kind of work there.
[01:01:06] And one of the women who I've known for, like, eight years, she knows me very well. Um, and I brought up ... It was an ancient agreement for her, and she was like, "I need to think about it." And so it took her three weeks to circle back. And that's like- Yeah ... a short period of time in a lifetime, but it's a metaphor for, like, not everyone's ready to put down the mantle.
[01:01:32] Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And, and there's no right or wrong there, but it's like you, many lifetimes have prepared you to say, like, "I, when I can get help on this, I'm ready to accept the help," 'cause I didn't think I was gonna get help. Got it. 'Cause I created this. Yeah. And, like, there s- there seems like there's no way out.
[01:01:50] Here, here we go again, you know? Yes. Yeah. And, you know, and, you know, as you move from life to life it's like, okay, I'll take it on again, you know? Yes, exact- Yeah. I'm, I'm gonna try again. An agreement's an agreement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I might as well try again, and they're like, kind of like, "Good luck with that."
[01:02:09] So you have- Ba- basically I haven't failed fast enough, you know? Yeah, yeah. They're like, "Okay, carry on as long as you want," but, you know, uh, we're ready to revisit the agreement when you're ready. Yeah, yeah. So, um, in this time, in this lifetime you just... You had an awareness of I'm gonna give it a try, but then if the opportunity comes I will accept the help.
[01:02:39] Good. Well, thank you. Yeah, yeah. And, and I was there when you signed it. I was there in the original signing, so that's why I know how- Oh, you were, huh? Okay ... I'm allowed to help. That's why, that's why I'm, I'm uniquely equipped. Okay. I did not co-sign. That, that's important for you to know. I did not co-sign on it.
[01:02:56] I did not create the g- agreement. Um- But I was there. That's how I am able to be kind of read in, in this way. Okay. Is there anything I need to be doing between now and the solstice? Just, just drinking water, and then, um,
[01:03:18] taking time for contemplation they say. Okay. So however you contemplate. Yeah, there, there's a lot of topics that have been brought up where I'm like I, uh, I need to spend a little more time thinking about examples and situations, you know, that those, those circum- circumstances presented themselves. And, and they want me to clarify for you that it's
[01:03:40] You process, um, through energy. So some people pro- process through the body, some people process through body consciousness, some people process through vibrations. Yours is primarily through energy. It doesn't mean it doesn't happen in other places, but when you're, when you're doing your process, it's, it's the energy that's in and around you.
[01:04:05] Okay. Is that, is that, is that like a, uh, like I do a lot of activities outdoors? Is it a physical energy like that or is it more just being in the environments I need to be in? It's not even being in the environments. It's that it's your energy. Okay. 'Cause I asked, I asked if it was out- a lot of people need outside in this work.
[01:04:25] Yeah. It's not dependent on your space or the out- outdoors for you. Okay. So it's like you kind of think about it as, um, some people talk about the auric field or the toroidal fields. So the toroidal field is the energy. It looks like a, um, inverted mushroom cloud- Yeah ... around our hearts. Okay. It looks like a...
[01:04:43] Or a donut, that I don't really know about. Um, but the toroidal field is the energy around your heart, and it's, um... That is part of the energy field that we're speaking of, and the auric field is when it's a auric field of wholeness that's kind of right size, that's about six feet, um, eggshell size around us- Yeah
[01:05:02] in all directions. Okay. And your energy field is, um, that, that's the primary place where you digest it, digest this. Okay. And so, um, you feel it in your body, but it's also around you. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I, I asked about all of the Taoist things that you know about already. You don't need anything like that. Um, I asked, like, if any detoxing is needed.
[01:05:28] N- no detoxing is needed. Um, I asked, like, if there any s- practice. The answer's no. So I, I, I kind of have like a, um, a-
[01:05:38] Uh, repository of what different people might ne- like benefit from. And, um, it's pretty big. You, you don't need any of those things. Okay. One, one more question for you. Sure, sure. So when you were, when you were like, "I feel it here and I feel it," you know- Yep ... when, when we first brought it up. Yep. Um, anything related to those sensations you had?
[01:06:00] Yeah, so that's, that's a good question. Um, so that was your energy body, and um, I could feel, I could feel it primarily in those places, um, in a way that you couldn't feel that 'cause you were blocked from that. Yeah. So it was like not conscious, not unconscious. It's just in, literally in your field. Yeah, part of the agreement.
[01:06:26] Yeah. Yeah, part of the agreement was- You're, you're, you're blocked, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It, it, it channels a different way. Yep. Um, so there's nothing more, nothing more about it than, than that. Um, yeah. You're, you're not telling me I'm gonna become more emotional, are you? Um- ... I'm not telling you that. There's a chance that that might happen, though.
[01:06:50] Yeah. Yeah, um, I know what you're saying. You're gonna sense more is what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're gonna... Yeah, you're gonna- You'll feel more. Le- less- Yeah ... less blockage, you'll feel more. Yeah. You'll be in your wholeness. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you, you brought up the intensity. Um, so the intensity's gonna be right-sized.
[01:07:13] Okay. Yeah. You know? And like, like I said, I, I don't feel that intense. Yeah, no. But I also, you know, I could get into a whole conversation with you about point and purpose of life. Yes. You know? Yes. Um, which then it's like what are we, like what are we really here for? Yes. Are we here to, uh, you know, work and accomplish and, you know, learn?
[01:07:35] Or are we here to... and, you know, uh, build relationships, community, you know, connection, that kind of stuff too. Yeah. And where- Yeah ... where should the energy and focus, you know, uh, which is obviously a much, much bigger philosophical discussion too. A- and they want me to clarify, it's, you know, of course, as you already know this, it's person, person de- dependent.
[01:08:01] Yeah. Totally. So y- y- your part of your mission is 100% that. Okay. And you do it in all kinds of ways, your work in the world, your family, your community. Yeah. And it will become even clearer after this. Great. Great. Yeah. All right. I don't have any questions, but I do owe you a big, big thank you. You know, I, uh, it, it, connections in life always fascinate me, you know?
[01:08:30] 'Cause I mean, you could say we met in passing. Yes, we did. Right? Yes. Um, and there's os- other associations like that that have had, you know, that have mean- meaningful connections that are just in passing, and- Yeah ... it makes you wonder how some of that stuff, you know, comes to be too. I always call it divine timing.
[01:08:54] Yeah. Really. You were right on time, and I was right on time. The, the clock works. Yep. I, I couldn't have been here any sooner, and literally I was supposed to pass you sooner than I'd passed you, but then the weather changed. So, so I have a question for you, and I don't know- Yes ... if this is, you know, for the podcast or not, but when we met, you were like, "Nope," uh, you don't wanna share about yourself or anything.
[01:09:21] Is that related to this too? Yes. And then where you're like, "Uh, the field is telling me that you need to go listen to this podcast or that podcast." Yes. Is that to give me the comfort to come forward? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. All right. Good to know. You know? Yeah. Like I said, I'm coming into it with curiosity, and, you know, it's as much about the process and how things line up.
[01:09:57] Mm-hmm. So again, thank, thank you, I guess. You know? Yeah. It's, it's meaningful. And thank y- thank you, Mark, and, um, it's been a pleasure and an honor, and to those of you listening, uh, I hope that this has been meaningful, uh, for you. And, uh, if it has, I would welcome you to leave a review on my podcast. If you're curious about working with me, you can email me, amy@amybavish.com, and, uh, if for now just listening to my podcast episodes are where you're at, that's wonderful.
[01:10:29] Um, and I also have, um, many other ways to connect, like my newsletter. Um, Instagram is touch and go for me sometimes. It's when I'm divinely guided. So until we meet again, sending you infinite blessings from the Duhig land that I, uh, steward outside of Washington, DC. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
[01:10:51] Thank you so much for tuning in and journeying with my guest and me today. If our episode spoke to you and you're ready to explore your own process with me or processes with me, you can email me, amy@amybabbish.com. I wish you well in the big life you came to live, and until you tune in again, sending blessings from the Doeg land I steward outside of Washington, DC